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4) dated 17.12.2002 Results of scanning Karen.

dated 21/12/2002: Yesterday Karen had a second opinion at another university hospital of the MRI results. It seems good to read both. The first report I talk more about oncologist, but now it appears that this doctor is a surgeon and oncologist no. She is also specialized in breast cancer. Seems a mi detail but this makes a difference and may explain the difference in approach (human) and rash / advice.

Dated 17/12/2002
Today I went along with Karen who had received the results of an MRI scan last week was made. Here is a personal and factual account of this day which began only disappointing mi (very) hopeful ending. Lest Please Folder on the whole story because you get a hopefully good understanding of how and what the CLT - Cytoluminescent therapy is and what causes the process to patients and oncologists. Karen and her husband were today and I get very disappointed, but later in the day that changed again in good hope and even joy and satisfaction. I would again emphasize that in all our disclaimer applies and that the real to the individual whether he / she had anything to do yes or no. I realize that I / we thus hope to create, but that hope may also prove to be false hope. But we do not dare to take risks in life that we never reached by anything. We choose to publish this approach because we believe that we have a really important step forward in tackling cancer cure, but we are only human and can be wrong and other people / organizations in the wrong be put. That's the risk we knowingly take the publication of the story of Karen and CLT treatment. dd 20/12 Ralph Moss describes in his newsletter and on this page to put our comments, which patients are not eligible for CLT - Cytoluminescent therapy. Here are the report of the scan result of Karen:

10.50 hours.
We meet Karen and her husband in the hospital cafeteria. Karen makes a quiet impression though the camera says she has slept very badly last night. (Today I would like as much of what happens on video for a documentary portrait of Karen, possibly later televised). Karen is said to be confident that the outcome will be positive, because she feels a little better every day ever.

11.55 am
Although the appointment was scheduled at 11.10 hours to 11.55 hours until we are called in when the female doctor / oncologist. Karen and her husband asking me to go in as an objective listener. The oncologist thinks that fine. However, the camera should stay out, but I knew from the PR department and information that I know did this last night via email.

The doctor / oncologist comes directly without opening the message. The first words out of my memory displayed without yet but marked citations, because this was almost literally said, "Mrs. ......, I'm really worried about you Your tumors are much larger. I recommend you begin chemotherapy immediately, to save what can still be saved. "
That much is clear. While I myself struggling with a rising wave of disappointment and sadness and am shaking in my legs from the excitement, I look to Karen and her husband. But these remain appearance unmoved and Karen begins very businesslike and sober her questions: "How do you know that the tumors have grown? How do you know that the tumor tissue is active and not dead with a lot of moisture around it? Does the MRI so expelled? " "Of course", replies the oncologist, "and I also see it as they have grown? Your chest still looks terrible, I can see that even through clothing."

Later in the call, the oncologist's claim that on the MRI scan could not see anything significantly weaken. Striking is that the MRI scans do not exist. According to the oncologist they are still on the stack in radiology from which I fished it yesterday. It remains to be done by reporting she explains. Personally I find this a strange state of affairs. Anyone who was involved knew how important this terrible rash and had this conversation. It is anyway always been patient, but Karen's situation brought her choice for the CLT - Cytoluminescent Therapy - an extra charge for this special interview and rash. Why are the scans do not attend this meeting and will not be with Karen and her husband examined and explained? In my opinion a big mistake and misjudgment how a doctor / oncologist dealing with a patient.

Karen goes unperturbed, indicating that they also do see that her chest has grown, but says Karen doctors from Ireland made me more sure that this is normal and that the widening of the breast caused by the fluid that associatedseems to continue to remove the body / immune system of the dead tumor tissue and the formation of a sterile inflammation. The latter is nota bene several times confirmed by Karen's oncologist in a regular hospital and her doctor when she asked what it thought of the situation. In fact was that Karen was afraid it was not good and that both the GP and oncologist told Karen that this is a very good development could be rather unusual in a situation where tumor tissue dies. Problem was and is that nobody really knew exactly what you know and respond to this treatment could CLT / expect. Incidentally, the description of the CLT-therapy and any expected adverse reactions, doctors from Ireland indeed these effects, both on their own website and in writing that each patient receives the information about the CLT-therapy.

The oncologist must admit that they found that the tumors have grown primarily made based on seeing Karen and the keys to the memory of the first meeting / visit with Karen. Browse by what the oncologist's medical record in a few lines where Karen describes how the situation in mid-October was when Karen came to her for a second opinion. But it is not at all describe the extent of the tumor was and how far the metastases were so only the size of a metastasis in Karen's armpit is in cm. described: 3.5 x 4 cm. Yet this seems metastasis seen and felt diminished the oncologist says Karen.
Afterwards, different doctors / oncologists who inquire, we confirm that an MRI scan is very difficult to see whether there is active tumor tissue. It even seems to be that some tumor tissue also appears to be moisture. And you can only draw definitive conclusions from an MRI scan if it can be compared to a time earlier MRI scan of the same area or an additional puncture or biopsy. But when Karen was never an MRI scan. At diagnosis, only blood tests and an ultrasound. And even then it was found that almost completely below the left breast cancer Sat This is also confirmed in Ireland when they were using the spirulina and camera equipment which made all tumors were visible. Read previous versions of the story of Karen on this page.

As Karen then says that there are two holes in the skin of her breast arose last week, the oncologist almost hysterical. With the arms up and my eye is very theatrical, "" Oh no, the tumor has been growing through the skin. Ms what awful. How did this all have happened anyway. How did you do all can do? "Karen quite soberly and quietly," The doctors in Ireland told me that this is actually very good. Then the fluid will drain that way. "The oncologist," but how can they do that Ms. say. This is not good, this is the worst that can happen. You are thus become incurable!
Karen then indicates that she has heard from various sides, last week of women with MRI assisted eg, that if there is actually to the outside of tumor growth that is accompanied by a strong rotting smell. Then it stinks really. The oncologist, "Ms Oh but that's only later when a real crater is created."
Inquiries later some doctors / oncologists shows that indeed in tumor growth through the breast skin around there is ALWAYS a strong fetid smell. The comment by the oncologist that the scent would be released later by the doctors / oncologists unanimously dismissed as nonsense. If moisture comes out then you can smell it already By Karen However, the moisture in her day and night out dropping almost no smell and looks very fluid just like Karen. Karen has since holes are caused less pain and feel some relief of pressure on her breasts. She experiences this also, like the doctors in Ireland as a positive.

Karen asked the oncologist on the / research / treatment couch to lie down and expose her breasts to make. And does the oncologist again appalled at the size and color of the breast of Karen. The chest looks awful. The breast is almost lurid purple and extremely swollen. I can personally imagine that as a classic doctor / oncologist scares them. However, how the breast looks like it is definitely not satisfy with what looks like a breast tumor which threatens to break. At least that's what other doctors told Karen - and I was at one time himself - when she told them there and asked them to breast and / or photographs of the chest showed. See later in this reporthow the doctor in Ireland describes and explains these symptoms.

Following a question and answer between Karen and the oncologist, it is remarkable that Karen's husband says nothing but calm things hears, they shall be focused on how really to prove that the tumor is active and living / growing. The oncologist does at first the proposal to another colleague who is currently in an adjacent treatment room also holds office hours to get there and ask his opinion, but Karen refuses decisively: "He will not see more than what we see and and know more of the same, so I want security in a different way ". And finally, the oncologist or the proposal that for myself from the beginning had in mind. Shall we do a biopsy or puncture. Biopsy has the disadvantage that it takes several days before a rash while a puncture this afternoon to give the result. And while Karen is afraid of the shot - the physical pain - is jointly decided on a puncture to do. This afternoon at 15:00 Karen can then call for the results. At 12.35 we walk out of the room.

A few side notes about things I have noticed in this conversation:

What strikes me is that the whole conversation of say half an hour the oncologist not asked the question about the CLT-therapy . As Ireland and the CLT is discussed is that from Karen's side and the oncologist does only a few scathing negative statements that are all terrible. That it's so bad and Karen injaagt death. And so much money just thrown away. I'm then off to the oncologist would not a little curious about what exactly did Karen Ireland, and from which the doctors there still remain optimistic and Karen affirm that what is happening to her 'normal' after a CLT-treatment? The color of the breast is completely different from a situation of 'normal' tumor growth. The smell and shape of the holes in the skin of the chest are totally unlike a 'normal' tumor outgrowth.
And why were not the scans? Why does the oncologist Karen if she wants to have the scans themselves to possible to bring to Ireland? Now it all out yourself and Karen will be referred to the radiology department. Oncologist and would really not realize that she has put enormous pressure on Karen to go directly to the CLT-therapy to stop and start the chemo? Why discourage them in such a penetrating way the choices that Karen has made? I own and also with other experienced pressure from oncologists, but you have to be very strong in your shoes as a patient not to pressure it exercised oncologist to succumb. Especially in such a precarious vulnerability of Karen and her husband hoped for a positive result and it was totally negative or at least it was charged.

13.00. After a cup of tea and coffee and a breather / catch up to Karen and her husband to the radiology department and ask the scans. These are not found, but the woman at the desk promised that they will find the scans. After the puncture, they can get the scans. Karen and her husband questioned the puncture puncture an extra they want to take. And it is allowed. After the puncture, they are also eight pages of scan pictures home.
On camera telling both Karen and her husband that she was disappointed but not defeated. Let us first wait for the results of the biopsy as well and this is negative then we go to Ireland tomorrow.

15.10 hours. Standing on the sidewalk outside the health food store Karen realizes that she is now quick to call the oncologist for the results of the puncture. From the car and the camera, she calls the oncologist. The result is negative. Both biopsy tissues are cancerous, according to the oncologist. Look absolutely chilling calm and unfazed Karen hears everything very detailed and asks what is still more to her offer. The oncologist says that she suspects that there is already spread to his bones and lymph vessels and Karen before she gets a chenmobehandeling they first want to have a PET scan. Karen be there according to the oncologist this afternoon to 17:00 still take a decision, because it is reachable again until Dec. 31. Karen says that she wants to think about. Exit the conversation and says to us / the camera: "Well first go home to eat because my stomach growls and here we go once again to call Ireland".

Later, when we call other people / speaking for advice and how to proceed is by different peopleincluding two doctors pointed out that there indeed malignant cells are found, but that is very important HOW malignant cells, and structure etc. The doctors in Ireland will also provide some very important statements about it. See later in this report.

16:00 Personally, I had very great difficulty in concentration and my mood at that moment under control after the results of the biopsy proved to be too negative. My feeling was that moment when all hope Karen and her husband, but also for me and for many hundreds if not thousands of other cancer patients completely dashed. I was thinking of the people from the mail group, almost all of which have been declared incurable, and I thought of all the visitors to my website dedicated to CLT have read, just like me so much hope all of this had been established. Flashes going through my mind: how did Dr. Ralph Moss, still widely considered an honest man and highly respected physician and have this so wrong, so it is premature to market more quickly. How is it possible that doctors in Ireland that we have in recent months have come to know as very amiable and committed people, devoid of power, ego or financial gain to date have maintained that what Karen is a "normal" process in CLT. I just can not believe, but the facts do not lie? I wish Karen and her husband alone. No longer stay with the camera and give them the privacy, I think they need now. I ask that they now need to process it all together, to seek support from each other, etc. But to my surprise, both Karen and her husband very clearly and firmly, "No Mike, you just go with it. We go together a plan of action and tomorrow we fly to Ireland with you. " I accept this post and am very glad that it happened. Because what happens in the next hour then I can not believe it and describe it.

At home, a plan of action discussed. Everyday issues such as the care of the children who should be called so in no time arranged. Dr. and further directly. Ralph Moss and Irish in America called doctors. Dr. Ralph Moss will not call back the next day because he is not currently accessible. (See below his comment.) Dr. Porter calls the treating physician CLT after fifteen minutes back.
In a telephone call from one minute or 40 places this doctor very patiently and clearly that everything that happens to Karen the "normal" symptoms that occur after treatment and CLT - Cytoluminescent therapy, including malignant cells from the puncture. I have this whole phone conversation recorded on video with supporting a speaker phone and give the following important statements per topic.

Dr. Porter on the results of the MRI scan:
According to Dr. You can wear on a MRI scan to see if the tumor is not dead or active. He says to understand that its Dutch oncologist was shocked, because Dr. says. Porter almost all tissue on the MRI can still be seen. The masses will not become much smaller. Dr. Porter tells Karen that she must have patience. Only after four to six months in her situation, you can see if you're healing. Karen is also just seven weeks after treatment by Dr. Porter and she is now almost at the peak of the sterile inflammation and fluid accumulation. Karen's tumor was so large and so far spread (in her other breast, the lymph and in her stomach were many metastases appeared when using the spirulina and PDT devices on screen) that it takes a long time to tumor mass away work.

Dr. Porter on the malignant cells from the puncture:
This is also according to Dr.. Porter quite normal. He expounds that the CLT - Cyotoluminescent therapy is effective in different ways. First, by the help of spirulina and light a lot of cancer immediately slain. But if there is a lot of large tumors and not all cancer cells are then slain, but the rest is such that further damaged the cancer cells no longer have the ability to continue dividing. The second effect of CLT is that there is an immune process is initiated. And when a puncture during such immunity process is done as now Karen has done it's "normal" that there are malignant cells are found. Dr. Porter says very curious about the nature of the malignancy and the number of malignant cells. He suspects that there will be less evil than found normally be expected without a CLT treatment.The page is a lung cancer study report of PDT in lung cancer which is written exactly the same effect. This process is automatic immunity to get going when the immune system recognizes the dead tissue as foreign and then all will continue to recognize cancer cells and that early removal. I've been in touch about this with several doctors and oncologists, and assigns it to confirm this explanation. They found the explanation of the Irish doctor very plausible and absolutely no nonsense. Karen and her husband are now trying to puncture a detailed report on paper.

Dr. Wear on the color and size of her breasts:
Dr. Porter repeat again heroes and clear that the size of the breast in his opinion caused by the fluid and sterile inflammation. He says again that he is glad that punctured her chest skin, Karen phrase came about because even if the moisture can flow away, and her kidneys and liver so that less strain. Moreover, the color of the breasts very recognizable, which is part of the process of tumor tissue and withered body removal treatment according to the CLT-Dr. Karen Porter and requires absolutely no need to worry. Dr. Porter emphasized again that all the symptoms that manifest themselves with Karen in all breast cancer patients (and also in other cancers) which occur to this day the CLT - Cytoluminescent have undergone therapy. And according to Dr. Porter ALL women are then cured using scans and blood tests etc. Dr. Porter tells Karen that her choice of course or she still wants to go to the chemo, but he can only say that based on his experience the process within four to six months after treatment benefit will reverse. Dr. Porter repeated four times: 'Until now we have we no patients treated with CLT-Cytoluminescent therapy - a recurrence to see emerging binnn two months after treatment. (too bad we have not asked whether relapses within a different time period were created in March that will come later. Otherwise, it appears that this impunity CLT can be repeated several times.) Then he tells his wife that 2.5 years ago was diagnosed with metastatic breast cancer. They were also looking for a curative treatment and were thus in contact with some Russian doctors with the CLT-treatment were experimenting (since we have these Russian doctors the address and all contact had). And Dr. Porter says emphatically: "Karen My wife is the process that you are going through been there and she is now completely cancer free and a half years. Beht you seen her and talked her breasts and you have seen, seen pictures, etc. And all of it matches where you are going through. Moreover, you are not the first patient that we do CLT treatment. We just came out with Dr. Ralph Moss over the last two years after more than 100 patients have so treated. When it appeared that this approach gave good results so huge, we contacted Dr. Ralph Moss for him to do a scientific study. This Dr. Ralph Moss done these past few months in some patients with many different cancer types and stages. We are not just some experiment, but do have quite a lot of experience. I can only tell you then have faith and patience, although I realize how difficult this is. From the classic CLT oncology is not a sensible word to be expected because they simply do not know what Cytoluminescent therapy entails. That you can not blame them. "
And again, Dr.. Karen Porter that free is still free to choose chemo, but Karen always welcome in Ireland or by telephone for guidance and explanation.
Today (dated December 19, 2002) that I write this report, Dr. Ralph Moss now also called back and ride is included in trial group and are guided by him and Dr. Porter. And Dr. Ralph Moss on the phone yesterday told Karen that everything they make is part of the healing process mediated by the CLT - Cytoluminescent therapy.

Evening, Karen emailed me these words before retiring after this very emotional day. I say this enough:

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny
matters compared to what lies within-us.

- Ralph Waldo Emerson


love Karen,

pffft now and relax


Afterword:

You will understand that the mood and feelings of Karen and her husband (also in my way but I'm still in a whole other less vulnerable) were very different after this conversation and explanation. It difficult for Karen and her husband, on the one hand, an experienced Dutch classical acting oncologist said that all indications are that it is very bad with her and that Karen signed her own death warrants if they do not immediately take action. On the other hand, blessing equally experienced and respected doctors in Ireland that all symptoms are normal and that Karen healing process is a complete middle. As Karen chooses to deal with the Dutch oncologist, she probably did not have much chance. Most, they have several years of chemotherapy and so on living where the quality of life will be less slow, but they will most likely die within one to two years. If she continues with Ireland and it seems not to be like the doctors always imagine her now she will die quickly, probably already this year, but Karen told me very clearly: "Kees I have chosen based on intuition and my own feeling. I have previously informed and inform me and I opted for a change in thinking and lifestyle, healthy eating, and additional supplementation as the core CLT Cytoluminescent - the choice for all or nothing. It is my own choice, my strong feeling that this is MY way is right. My husband and I have kids involved in this choice and who have also played a decisive role in my decision. I'm going for everything. I know the risks.

Behind the scenes, we as Foundation Health News very busy in many ways with this new treatment but I will tell later. Anyone with questions or comments about Karen's experiences and choices of the CLT - Cytoluminescent therapy - can ask questions via email , but I will not any personal answer, but after Christmas a number of summary answers here on this page. It has no sense conventional doctors and oncologists to treat this request. They really know absolutely nothing about.