Report from our visit to Robert Gorter in Cologne including the protocol, when supply and dendritic cell can and can not seem sensible. And what it all costs time and money. Article updated June 22, 2011

June 22, 2011: Please read the recently added information about Dr. Robert Gorter and Medical Center in Cologne this information: My experience with dr.Robert Gorter and the Medical Center Cologne. A warning

And click here for addresses of clinics in Germany, where dendritic cell therapy is given .

October 21, 2008: Here on the website of the SNFK (click on videos in the bar above the screen) you can see an educational video on dendritic cell therapy in cancer. This movie will cure several patients to the word and image. Cancer News with complementary approaches you can read in your story - stories of experience . Videos with experiences of cancer patients with complementary approaches such as dendritic cell therapy can bekjken if you click here or on the video button top left of this page.

The information below has been updated and amended at 21 October 2008. But I have as much as possible the original text leave from previous years to show how everything has developed.

March 7, 2008:

Past few months I was commissioned by the SNFK several times with Robert Gorter in his clinic in Cologne has been shooting for for information on movies such as hyperthermia and dendritic cell therapy . The information films are presented online at the website of the SNFK http://www.tegenkanker. com and click on videos. In these movies tell patients about their good experiences, including a man with an inoperable and metastatic cancer in the liver is completely cancer free for over one year alone by hyperthermia and dendritic cell therapy. As a woman with metastatic breast cancer receiving a combination of regular ( chemotherapy , surgery and Herceptin ), and hyperthermia and dendritic cletherapie now been three years clinical cancer.

Address of Medical Center Cologne:

Robert W. Gorter, MD, PhD.
Medical Center Cologne
Eduardus Krankenhaus
Custodisstrasse 3-17
50679 Cologne
Germany
Tel: 49 221 788 030
@ cologne-model.com r.gorter
www.cologne-model.com

March 7, 2008: The following information we will adapt as quickly as possible because it no longer is uptodate.

October 17, 2005, we have some information updated in the following story and example, the address changed. For further explanation and changed the address of both organizations in the following story.

March 14, 2005: Source: own visit to Dr. Robert Gorter in Cologne

Last Friday we were visited with Dr. Robert Gorter to mainly talk about its offer and experience with dendritic cell therapy. Unfortunately, there is a lot wrong with the time and we were an hour while having more than two hours were planned. So we are invited back for a month when the newly built laboratory for culturing dendritic cells than in full operation will be. Yet we think that an hour enough to give you a few things to tell and explain how dendritic cell therapy and for whom it works and for whom no option can be.

The start of our meeting takes place unhappy. Because the institute where Robert Gorter works in the heart of Cologne's and we miss it, despite a route and a reason we file 45 minutes late. And Robert appeared to have made a double appointment, but it was good to finally have a meaningful conversation and exchange. See bottom of this article are full address of Robert Gotter Medical Institute.

All in a hyperactive state Robert walk into the elevator and then calls all of which took you right now I have to leave. Robert had a lecture scheduled in another city in Germany on the dendritic cell and had to catch a train from 12.55 hours. And we came in at 11.45. Really, we were running through the aisles by Robert of coffee and tea provided and we were still quick to call. Maybe not entirely relevant information but Robert Gorter, a hyperactive man, he would now be called child an ADHD child, we think, very busy, chaotic, but in our opinion very well knows what he has. But who is new and somewhat skeptical attitude toward it is, or is not well prepared with questions draw at home can seem chaotic and hyperactive attitude is a hindrance to what you want him to know and whether or not a lead In a confidential consultation amazing swing. Prepare your home well before then to frame questions and work in your own pace on your list. Robert Gorter is in our view a very nice and especially expert doctor.

Then the content of the conversation:

According to Robert Gorter books they have good results with the dendritic cell as they perform. And when we talk about it then we're talking about doctors and professors and scientists from various university hospitals across Germany who all participate in the trials with dendritic cell therapy. May 2005 is to Roberts said, the new ASCO in Orlando presented a study of the effects of dendritic cell therapy in a group of 240 women with advanced breast cancer , either hormone determined as non-hormone determined, with a requirement prior to participation that at least two place or better in two other organs, eg bones, liver, lymph nodes metastases, etc. - had to have metastases. Now see the abstract of this study Dendritic cell therapy in breast cancer tumors of advanced breast cancer shows promising results - 3-year survival ranges from 1% to 16%. Study, which was contributed by ao Prof. Robert Gorter

According to Gorter now have three years after the start of this trial 18% of the participating breast cancer patients a complete CR = Complete response received, which means that the cancer is in remission came and clinically no detectable tumor at time of study and 60% of The women got a PR = partial response means that the cancer at least 50% reduction compared to starting this treatment. The first group includes women who have three years with CR - complete response. These women have at least two injections of dendritic cells had. This study is in May in Orlando presented at ASCO.

A very special result although there is the comment on made ​​some chemotherapy often for a significant remission may cause but the problem remains recurrence that example in this group of women with metastatic breast cancer almost 100% certain, at least that is generally claimed in the mainstream oncology. A follow-up of three years is too short to draw already final conclusions, although it again so that a complete remission never really in metastatic breast cancer is achieved as far as we know, or partial remission but never a clinically tumor-free research results in that stage of the disease. So in that sense, these are still impressive. We're talking now about the occasion of the breast cancer study, but dendritic cell therapy may be applied to all cancers, at least for cancers with solid tumors. Oa has success with dendritic cell therapy in inoperable brain tumors and prostate cancer . Dendreon also has the vaccine Provenge, a form of dendritic cell therapy for prostate cancer after positive Phase III trial resutlaten official approval to the FDA called for full recognition of their vaccine Provenge. Or dendritic cell therapy works for leukemia-like cancers, we knowDendreon has not only successful vaccine development for such Kahler - Multiple Myeloma and this is related to a bone marrow disease and certain forms of leukemia, so it would dendritic cell therapy may work in certain types of leukemia. And of course Oncovax for colorectal cancer a comparative example of a car vaccination therapy in phase III trials has been proven. Oncovax made their own tumor tissue.
Our question now is what cancer patients the best chance of success in dendritic cell therapy have told Robert Gorter the following:

The lower the tumor load, so the fewer tumors, smaller tumors, the higher the probability of response and success, but he could not / did not want numbers to show or tell. Striking example of course, prostate and brain cancer often not very large tumors and therefore may have, but I seemed to conclude, are more prone to this approach as opposed to eg cancer that sometimes occurs in many large tumors can express. What strikes me is that sometimes a car vaccination program - called Oncovax for operable cancer patients, after surgical removal of tumors, again it is promising.

October 21, 2008: Robert Gorter now works in a way that seems correct for me. Based on scans and all available medical information about cancer patients a consultation meeting of 1.5 hours. Based on this, Robert Gorter does a treatment plan with a cost there. The choice of whether or not to start the treatments is of course the patient himself. All we know Robert will / Gorter never promise a patient him / her better. And even if he sees no prospect more than he will as far as we know the patient and their family to know. And treatments can almost always take place in Cologne alongside other standard treatments such as even with large tumors.

This would require you to use according to Robert Gorter debulking, where possible first tumor tissue is removed and then immediately proceeded to dendritic cell therapy. Or where Robert also works with the Greater Newcastle disease virus . This kills cancer cells and dendritic cells can activate additional. Or chemotherapy with such support and assistance of hyperthermia , which also include Robert Gorter to be followed. Robert explained that dendritic cell therapy along with chemotherapy and after chemotherapy may not need to wait at least one week before the dendritic cell therapy can begin. Tumor removal with radiation is the least preferred if it is irradiated with stereotactic radiation - Gamma Knife or a robotic radiation machine like the VU - Amsterdam and Erasmus of Rotterdam is available, then well suited for these forms of radiation, little or no health irradiated tissue. However, both chemotherapy and radiation affect the immune system and that is bad for any success of dendritic cell therapy. For reducing the tumor load and perhaps this would be the best way, PDT - Photodynamic therapy may be used. There are already known where the animal studies combining PDT and dendritic cell therapy shows promising results. PDT damages the immune system, and sometimes calls itself a spontaneous immune response.

According to Robert Gorter enhances dendritic cell to the killer cells, THI (measure he also is a measure of reaction that has to express themselves with flu-like symptoms, say a few days after the injection, and preferably one day or five can / should hold), TH2, helper cells Phagocytes and (the clean-up cells). Elimination is via the kidneys and liver. Robert Gorter says that some patients received dialysis for a while to aid in the disposal of waste and necrotic tissue. Liver Cleansing in the form of enemas to this effect would also do good work seems. The dendritic cells are labeled with their own tumor tissue is better (he does not expect the tumor tissue from previous biopsies, because they are preserved in paraffin), but from fresh or frozen tumor tissue. But without private labeling tumor he has good results and these results can not compare with tumor labeling because most patients in the stadum when they come to him no tumor available. Interesting because of course this could mean that, for example cancer patients after an initial diagnosis is best fresh tumor tissue could be reduced, eg 1 / 1 after surgery and thus directly labeled dendritic cell therapy can do.


Now how does this treatment and how long do you carry so:

The treatment starts the morning with a session usually about four hours in total lichaasmhyperthermie, also known as fever therapy. It gives the patient before or during BCG (immunstimulerend an agent in the mainstream oncology is being used). And about six hours later, the patient receives an injection of pre-cultured dendritic cells. The schedule for full dendritic cell-based treatment is as follows:

6 times consecutively is an injection and then a schedule of times a month
Then once every 3 years 6 months 1
Then once a year as maintenance. The latter could also be done preventively to people not yet sick.

According to Robert Gorter people notice after the first has little effect but only after multiple injections, the results seen in the values ​​measured. Koortsachtioge who experience symptoms immediately after the injections is most likely that treatment of dendritic cell therapy starts.

Dendritic cell therapy is a relatively expensive treatment. Especially since it is an experimental treatment and the people themselves will usually have to pay. A rough calculation shows that a full dendritic Cellular Treatment & Oxygenation together spread over two years is € 30.000, - can cost. By treating a patient pays only for the injection of dendritic cells and consultation about € 3000, - math: 6 x € 3.000, - are you the first half year is already lost. A lot of money but if it can save your life that is obviously out of proportion. But of course there is never certainty. Radboud in Nijmegen in the dendritic cell is also given by Prof. Figdor for example melanoma and renal cell cancer and Kahler and colon cancer. In the VU University Amsterdam, Tel: 020-4444444, is a phase 1 trial of dendritic cell therapy in prostate cancer patients , and that you, if accepted, so be fully reimbursed. But Robert Gorter and his group is in our view far beyond this and has much more experience with dendritic cell therapy. But again we are independent and your own choice whether and with whom you may go to sea with this treatment ..